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Quite interesting, if rather poorly written, so the points were muddled. I think the gist is the McCullin hates digital colour photographs, probably particularly those that have been subjected to hypersaturation and HDR techniques - he dislikes overmanipulation, and sees it as a lie.

Fair enough, and the point is made by the writer that darkroom photographers have also always manipulated their prints using dodging & burning etc. I would add that it is just as easy to manipulate a scanned film or slide photo in PS in exactly the same way as a digital file - PS is just a new tool, a means to the same end.

I suppose that there is a mild irony for me in that I use digital manipulation of digital files to try to achieve the look of traditional film photographs.
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"I could get to like doing this" he says

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Ha!

..."I think the best thing you could do would be to tell me how to switch this thing on.."
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silly old curmudgeon

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silly old curmudgeon



As may be Simon but one of the great photographers of his day and one that inspired me with his stunning black & white imagery.
I guess if we all enjoyed a career such as his we would have earned the right to have a moan.


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Interesting and enjoyable vid, to see an old film Master seduced by modern technology.
But he had good reason to be concerned about digital photography, we can now make spotty skin perfect and blemish free with the touch of button, replace one sky with another etc,nothing is as it seems anymore, but this is progress, and seen as a good thing, but what will be next?



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Look guys digital isn't what made manipulation happen it just made it easier .

yes he was good at what he did and he's free to moan but you know war was his metier and really theres not that much manipulation in his field so I don't know what he's got to grumble about

Advertising and art and the vernacular and sheer experimentation will of course mean theres lots more manipulation but I don't see it as something to complain about- to my mind its FAR moreimportamnt that the big corporations+governments manipulate what we see in Te NEWS , THAT IS a manipulation we should worry about, not what the masses get up to with photoshop emoticon

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He was indeed a great war photographer Simon but I think you belittle him by just categorising him as such.
Harold Evans, one of the great Sunday Times editors valued him highly.
As for news manipulation etc. cannot disagree but it was as ever such.
I don't find it surprising that any 'News' photographers have a gripe now that their profession has all but disappeared. Staff photographers, who are they? A dying breed if ever there was one and that is down to the digital age.

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He was indeed a great war photographer Simon but I think you belittle him by just categorising him as such.
Harold Evans, one of the great Sunday Times editors valued him highly.
As for news manipulation etc. cannot disagree but it was as ever such.
I don't find it surprising that any 'News' photographers have a gripe now that their profession has all but disappeared. Staff photographers, who are they? A dying breed if ever there was one and that is down to the digital age.



I don't mean to belittle him, really, and my earlier comment was flippant, but all the same I think complaining about the digital age is fairly pointless and concern about unreal images is being addressed by the likes of Reuters who no longer allow ANY changes to their subscriptions

They are not first 'dying breed' to complain at the changes in their lot.

personally I think the digital age (for photography) has far more good to outweigh the sort of concern s he has - to my mind at any rate

If we're going to be concerned about manipulation then the questions this sort of thing raises are a thousand times more important in my mind- it makes interesting reading

]The selling of war

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