Norman2
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Artificial skies - again
Always seeking to improve my technique I am, once again, seeking help and advice. Making blank skies more interesting by darkening I am happy with but how should one deal with the many examples where structures have the sky around them, for example, towers and steeples, tall buildings or ornate stonework. I have tried using a mask and painting in a sky I have prepared but to keep the edges where sky meets stonework clean and tidy I am not very successful.
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15/Aug/15, 5:15 pm
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Re: Artificial skies - again
Norman - I had a way that worked well for me but couldn't find it so I posted a query on the replacement for Elements Village = Photoshop Elements and More.
The people there are very knowledgeable and helpful (as indeed they are on here) and here is the link that may help you as it includes the one I was thinking of plus another way that might be more suitable for what you are doing.
http://photoshopelementsandmore.com/thread/1098/tuiton-replacing-skies-trees-jhorizon?page=1&scrollTo=9960
Even though it is a predominantly Elements site I think you will find that it works in CS/CC
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16/Aug/15, 1:51 pm
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Norman2
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Re: Artificial skies - again
Thank you Chris, this could be worth a try.
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16/Aug/15, 2:13 pm
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Re: Artificial skies - again
Norman,
I have always found masking structures very tricky, and always look too contrived, so i avoid them if at all possible,
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16/Aug/15, 2:24 pm
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Re: Artificial skies - again
Good point, Alan, that is one of the reasons why I raised the question.
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16/Aug/15, 2:31 pm
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Re: Artificial skies - again
Its difficult to match sky to land from different pics, I not seen one I have not spotted, anyway its cheating
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Norman2
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Re: Artificial skies - again
OK, Martin, I am not keen on the idea and I am not sure it would work for the sort of images I am thinking about. Just imagine you have an image of a towering, ornate steeple against a washed out sky. It is not too difficult to darken the sky a little and/or to shade it a little but in so doing other parts of the image are affected. No problem, apply a mask and paint in the sky but how do you deal with the the edges where the sky and the steeple meet?
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Re: Artificial skies - again
quote: martinimages wrote:
Its difficult to match sky to land from different pics, I not seen one I have not spotted, anyway its cheating
Errr ... if it had been done well you wouldn't spot it?
More importantly ... seems to me it is difficult to draw hard and fast rules or lines except possibly one which says everyone can do what they like to achieve their desired result (still not quite comfortable with the V word )
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Re: Artificial skies - again
Norman you need to study my contrast Grading method of shading in parts with the brush, the sky does not need to be as dark around say the buildings as the at the top of the images, there is a video explaining the theory of contrast grading in the vid section here, take a look and see how I do it with no halos, selections can be problematic better to have control of brush and brush opacity
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Re: Artificial skies - again
quote: Elines wrote:
quote: martinimages wrote:
Its difficult to match sky to land from different pics, I not seen one I have not spotted, anyway its cheating
Errr ... if it had been done well you wouldn't spot it?
)
Erm how do you know that Chris
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