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Have to disagree with you on this one Martin emoticon.

Whilst I accept that we are talking about the background only the visual mass of the trees is great and takes into account probably 40% of the overall image, draws the eye and is therefore of some importance to the overall composition.

At the moment, to me, this a game of two halves where the main subject is a tad harsh but the trees are flat and the contrast between the two is quite striking.

It doesn't look like an atmospheric hazy or misty covering of the trees to my eye. It's [sign in to see URL] (Sorry Norman - nothing personal!).

It needs a bit more dark in those darks to give more depth. Not much more, but a bit.

Get yer pen out Norman.


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Touche, agree to disagree emoticon

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Steve, I understand what you are driving at but, if I increased the contrast within the background wouldn't that increase the interest therein and draw the eye away from the ferry?

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I don't believe it would Norman - if you do it subtly. To my eye, the shadow areas are just a tad too gray and it needs subtle and selective D&B.

With the old adage of a picture being worth a thousand, I took the liberty of doing a very, very quick edit. Drag n drop it onto your desktop then flick back and forth between the two to see the difference. It's not huge mind. See what you think. After all, it's all subjective.

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I have to agree to disagree with Martin and agree with Steve on this one, and that is because only last Friday and Saturday I crossed the Lake on this car ferry. The trees are not that far away, at a push you could swim [sign in to see URL] still beat the ferry !!
So the background suits the mid contrast amendment in the re edit, just my opinion though emoticon emoticon
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All credit to you for producing some interesting images from old colour slides. As already mentioned, I like the rich tones of the ferry and foreshore,which stand out well against the muted trees in the background.

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The only thing that irks me in the photo is the FG stones - they look too dark to my wee eye emoticon

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As a beginner I hesitate to join in this illuminating discussion however, I do have one question, what would you do if you had a negative in an enlarger, the selected image on the baseboard, the enlargement size set and you have now to produce the print? You haven't got the luxury of watching the image as you make minor adjustments, you can't just delete your efforts and start again. In other words, how much has the freedom of digital processing altered our views on what photographic images should look like?

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Fair point Norman. However, many of us who did work in the darkroom did spend a lot of time dodging and burning using wither our hands and various cardboard cut-out shapes to assist. Sometimes it was very much a hit 'n' miss affair.

I used to delete by chucking away the prints that didn't look like I envisioned (and that was many!). I think most printers spent a mad amount of hours printing and chucking, printing and chucking until we got as close as we could to what we wanted.

It is much easier now. Cleaner, more precise and much less wasteful.

As to your question of has DP altered our views on what photographic images should look like, I'm not sure 'should' is the correct word. Who determines what an image 'should' look like? I would suggest that you are the one who decides. Whether it is your own work you are looking at or that of another, only you can decide what it should look like in your mind. But you vision for it will be different to the photographer who produced it (probably).

I struggled with the digital concept for a long time arguing that it wasn't as 'pure' as film and paper. Whilst that may be true, in the end, I had to admit that it has given me far more artistic freedom than I ever had before and brings me much closer to whatever I envision.


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Well said, Steve especially what you said towards the end about artistic freedom.

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