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Which zone is it?


I am slowly getting my head round luminosity masks (with the emphasis on 'slowly'emoticon)

Is there a way to click on a part of an image with the colour picker tool (say) and tell which Ansel Adams zone it is in?



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Re: Which zone is it?


yes there is Chris but Its probably best to set the Info pallet to read LAB values and use the Step wedges I have e,ailed to you



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Re: Which zone is it?


Ok - thanks Ian - just seen it has arrived, thanks for that

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quote:

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yes there is Chris but Its probably best to set the Info pallet to read LAB values and use the Step wedges I have e,ailed to you




I guess LAB values is a Photoshop thing as in PSE 11 I have only:

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At the moment I am using your (Ian's) B&W visualisation [which came with (I think) the SFEX tutorial and generates the zones down the side of the image] and this helps but eyeballing it isn't easy for meemoticon

?so is there an alternative that might work in PSE 11?

EDIT The Zone wedges is easier for me to use than the B&W visualisation because I can move the wedges around the image I am working on, and so (more or less) put them up against one another - so I think this will do for me - thanks

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Please see EDIT above

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What Color Space are you working in Chris ?

Tomorrow, i will convert the lab values to your color working space



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Is it SRGB IEC 61966-2.1? :


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Not Quite sure how you got to that dialog box but according to the manual for elements it says

Set up color management

In Photoshop Elements, choose Edit > Color Settings.
Select one of the following color management options, then click OK.
No Color Management

Leaves your image untagged. This option uses your monitor profile as the working space. It removes any embedded profiles when opening images, and does not tag when saving.

Always Optimize Colors For Computer Screens

Uses sRGB as the RGB working space; the Grayscale working space is Gray Gamma 2.2. This option preserves embedded profiles, and assigns sRGB when opening untagged files.

Always Optimize For Printing

Uses Adobe RGB as the RGB working space; the Grayscale working space is Dot Gain 20%. This option preserves embedded profiles and assigns Adobe RGB when opening untagged files.

Allow Me To Choose

Lets you choose sRGB (the default) or Adobe RGB when opening untagged files.

When you save a file, select ICC Profile in the Save As dialog box.

So the option I would select is Always Optimize For Printing

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Thanks Ian

I found the dialogue box by going through Adobe help but I always find that difficult to get much sense out of. Anyway ...

.... I followed the instructions you found and it was set to

"Always optimise colours for computer screens"

as I'm sure I found somewhere that said that was the one to go for emoticon

I have changed it to

"Always Optimize For Printing"

but the two drop down boxes remain the same ie no LAB

So thanks for your efforts on my behalf.

I can get by just using your movable wedge chart so that will help me progress with luminosity masks

I am likely to be out most of tomorrow and so tomorrow evening is likely to be the first chance I will get to try again.


 

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Re: Which zone is it?


not sure if this is any use to you but if you have the nik collection - sep2 loupe and histogram have an option to click a zone and it will appear hatched on the image.
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