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Hooray - I printed it our 17" wide and it looks great!

BUT

It did not all go smoothly: I forgot the computer was allowed to sleep after 5 mins so thats what it did stoopid thang!

I think that is what caused the bit of text I put at the bottom (my name) to look 'ghosted' but you can't see it on the actual image as I think it was still doing the misty part when that happened.



Anyway - slightly less nervous about doing another one now

btw I resized and sharpened in Photoshop

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Glad you done it Simon emoticon,


I always use a duplicate file for printing.

I like to re size and crop in imageprint. after sharping in PS at a given print size, tiff file @ 360ppi

Something you might not be aware of


Imageprints interpolation capabilities are excellent, this will allow you to create a sharpened file at the max print size you want. imageprint will then behind the scenes let you downsize (crop) the file while keeping them sharp, this means you do not need to sharpen it when cropping to a smaller print size.


imageprint 10 upgrade now allows you to use 16 bit Output Sharpening within the RIP, (should have been there in ver9), this means when an image has been edited and saved in PS you have no need to go into it again, everything for output can be done in the RIP softwware


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thanks Martin, so use IP for downsizing and Photoshop for upsizing - is that what you mean?

btw -Surely sharpening in IP doesn't allow for selective sharpening so the whole lot get it - no?

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You do all the selective sharpening in PS before sending to imageprint, and yes up size with PS and downsize with imageprint

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Just add something to the mix here.

IP has a quirky way of interpolating images to I think 300ppi, no idea why when the optimal resolution is 360ppi for Epson. I guess they have made this generic for all printers.

Something to be aware of when resizing in Photoshop

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Really? Hmmm . Not sure what to do with that information........... - baffled dot com - emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon

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quote:

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Really? Hmmm . Not sure what to do with that information........... - baffled dot com - emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon



I remember Martin having an issue with resizing in IP and it turned out that IP changes the PPI to 300 on jpg images so my suggestion would be to resize in Photoshop but use 300PPI for the resolution if you are printing JPG.

if you are printing TIF then I believe you will be ok. Just some information for you to make a note of.


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Ians right about the jpg issue so be aware of that

This is what Colorbyte say about sharpening in IP9
 
"IP has Auto device dependent resampling to get to perfect resolution (360) without additional sharpening" and that's why I suggest sharpen to the largest size in PS then let image print re sample when croping it does a better job than PS.

Its a good workflow and keeps it simple when doing multiple size prints

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I'd never try to print as jpg when I had the option of TIFF but thanks for the info Ian

Martin: SO do you upsize all your images in Ps to 17" wide (as you've got the Epson 3800 havent you?) and sharpen them and just do any smaller prints from that 17" version?

So far I had been resizing and sharpening at the required size in Ps but I guess it would be easier to upsize to the bigest first and let IP do the smaller ones

I suppose I expect a file at its natural resolution to be better somehow than one thats been upsized though. Hard to get ones head around that

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You should always sharpen based on the output size.

If you have sharpened an image for a 17 inch print, you cannot simply print out a 10 x 8 using the same sharpening as you did for the 17 inch print.

Rather than have multiple files, I either use different sharpening layers for different output sizes or one sharpening layer applied as a smart object

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