Steve 734
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Re: Theory and practice - comments please
Ooh...this could be very interesting.
I'm off to have a think about this one. Good post!
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17/Sep/14, 7:57 pm
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Re: Theory and practice - comments please
I'm no Lawyer but I imagine the following to be true in the UK:
Short answer- simple:
Technically you are in breach of copyright if you photograph something on TV as everything that is broadcast will be copyrighted, unless it already falls within 'public domain' status.
Long answer: you will always be in breach of copyright BUT the real question is whether anyone is likely do do anything about it.
It's all a question of degrees.
e.g.
If you have taken a pic of the whole room but which shows the TV ON, then it is extremely unlikely that anyone will object, unless say you just happened to catch the frame where someone had flashed up some news about a very important event where the copyright owners might want to control copyright very tightly AND if you subsequently published that image outside your home (through any media)
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If you have the TV as the main subject say filling the whole screen and you reproduce the exact moment the black touches the white by a whisker before going into the pocket and then you also subsequently publish that, unless it is already in the public domain then someone might object and I doubt you'd be able to keep your publication displayed if they could demonstrate that they owned copyright
e.g. Much of TV is on Youtube anyway so would anyone really care?
e.g. you photo and Advert and put a caption ridiculing it - the advertisers might object, having said that people do it all the time, but I think LOGOs are a big no-no for unauthorised reproduction
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you take a pic of a famous artwork on TV and make your pic of it even more famous, then you'd most likely have lawyers letters coming through the door.
e.g. You have a TV report of your exhibition of photographs and someone takes it off the tele , prints it large and uses it as a Billboard poster for their new TV program
Basically on the legal front it all boils down to the subject of the frame you photograph, what you do with it, and whether anyone is likely to object and whether they would bother doing much about it.
Morally?
I work o the basis of how would I feel if someone did that to my image on TV?
Last edited by Digital Finger, 18/Sep/14, 11:13 am
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18/Sep/14, 10:53 am
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Elines
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Re: Theory and practice - comments please
Thanks - any more views?
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18/Sep/14, 2:21 pm
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Steve 734
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Re: Theory and practice - comments please
I think Simon has pretty much nailed it all.
It is a matter of degree, intention and 'passing off'. If you tried publishing this and passed it off as your own work then both legally and morally it's wrong.
Legally ( and I work alongside Trading Standards Officers) it's highly unlikely anything would be done prosecution wise. Too costly and not in the public interest to pursue a relatively minor case.
Simon's covered the Lawyer bit - probably a cease and desist notice if in the public domain.
If you printed it and hung it on your wall, who would know? Who would care?
Mind you, if I was Stephen Hendry I'd be wondering who that was impersonating me
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18/Sep/14, 3:42 pm
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Re: Theory and practice - comments please
Thanks to you both for taking the time to think and comment.
When I get really old and decrepit and can't get out and about I will be able to carry on (having a go at) creating interesting pictures from the comfort of my arm chair.
And since I would be doing it for my own pleasure, and not for resale etc then in practice I should be ok.
In the meantime I won't be bothering - it will be something to look forward to
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18/Sep/14, 10:15 pm
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Morals and legality aside , I think there valid creative motives for takingpics of the TV
I have seen some interesting effects but taking slow or very fast shutter speeds shots
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Re: Theory and practice - comments please
Interesting discussion, but should the real question not be....
"Why do you think this is Stephen Hendry?"
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20/Sep/14, 7:00 pm
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Re: Theory and practice - comments please
just what I thought but then I thought perhaps he's been on steroids or had a face lift - ya never know
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Re: Theory and practice - comments please
quote: JBeattie wrote:
Interesting discussion, but should the real question not be....
"Why do you think this is Stephen Hendry?"
Ah well - never have been much good at sport. I used to find this a big disadvantage when down the pub but then just decided to spend my time savouring beer instead of talking
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25/Sep/14, 10:32 pm
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